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	<title>Comments for Lamont County Environment</title>
	<link>http://lce.folc.ca</link>
	<description>In support of residents, business and friends of Lamont County</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 00:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Alberta Electricity Price-Rise Causes Run on Contracts by Walter Schneider</title>
		<link>http://lce.folc.ca/2012/01/08/alberta-electricity-price-rise-causes-run-on-contracts/#comment-1161</link>
		<author>Walter Schneider</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lce.folc.ca/2012/01/08/alberta-electricity-price-rise-causes-run-on-contracts/#comment-1161</guid>
		<description>You may wonder whether you are getting the best deal on electricity. If you live in Alberta, use the following link to information on rates and retailers available where you live and follow the instruction (simple to use, courtesy Utilitynet): http://www.theelectricityshop.net/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may wonder whether you are getting the best deal on electricity. If you live in Alberta, use the following link to information on rates and retailers available where you live and follow the instruction (simple to use, courtesy Utilitynet): <a href="http://www.theelectricityshop.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theelectricityshop.net/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Europe&#8217;s Green Lobby Fighting For Survival by Walter Schneider</title>
		<link>http://lce.folc.ca/2011/12/20/europes-green-lobby-fighting-for-survival/#comment-1114</link>
		<author>Walter Schneider</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lce.folc.ca/2011/12/20/europes-green-lobby-fighting-for-survival/#comment-1114</guid>
		<description>Keep in mind that the cost of carbon capture and storage is either being added to the rates you pay for electric energy or to your taxes or both.

That is not all.  Higher taxes and higher costs of electric energy drive up the cost of mining, manufacturing, retailing and everything else involved to bring you consumer goods and services. The end consumers, and you are one of them, pay for all of the cost increases due to carbon capture and storage, including all of the additional profit margins and taxes that are being charged over and above that at all of the intermediate stages in the provisioning process of consumer goods and services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind that the cost of carbon capture and storage is either being added to the rates you pay for electric energy or to your taxes or both.</p>
<p>That is not all.  Higher taxes and higher costs of electric energy drive up the cost of mining, manufacturing, retailing and everything else involved to bring you consumer goods and services. The end consumers, and you are one of them, pay for all of the cost increases due to carbon capture and storage, including all of the additional profit margins and taxes that are being charged over and above that at all of the intermediate stages in the provisioning process of consumer goods and services.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Costs jeopardize CO2 Capture and Storage Project by Walter Schneider</title>
		<link>http://lce.folc.ca/2011/10/07/costs-jeopardize-co2-capture-and-storage-project/#comment-755</link>
		<author>Walter Schneider</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 23:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lce.folc.ca/2011/10/07/costs-jeopardize-co2-capture-and-storage-project/#comment-755</guid>
		<description>&lt;img src="http://prntscr.com/3dn3n" alt="Interview of Prof. Bob Carter" /&gt;

Prof. Bob Carter states in an inerview by Vicky Kerrigan of ABC Darwin that there has been no measurable impact on global warming through man's activities and that there has been no measurable global warming since 1998.

Change the world anyway

Oct 05, 2011 , 2:48 PM by Vicki Kerrigan 

&lt;a href="http://blogs.abc.net.au/nt/2011/10/change-the-world-anyway.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://blogs.abc.net.au/nt/2011/10/change-the-world-anyway.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://prntscr.com/3dn3n" alt="Interview of Prof. Bob Carter" /></p>
<p>Prof. Bob Carter states in an inerview by Vicky Kerrigan of ABC Darwin that there has been no measurable impact on global warming through man&#8217;s activities and that there has been no measurable global warming since 1998.</p>
<p>Change the world anyway</p>
<p>Oct 05, 2011 , 2:48 PM by Vicki Kerrigan </p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.abc.net.au/nt/2011/10/change-the-world-anyway.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.abc.net.au/nt/2011/10/change-the-world-anyway.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on You think we have weather extremes? by Walter Schneider</title>
		<link>http://lce.folc.ca/2011/07/26/you-think-we-have-weather-extremes/#comment-679</link>
		<author>Walter Schneider</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 23:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lce.folc.ca/2011/07/26/you-think-we-have-weather-extremes/#comment-679</guid>
		<description>Specifically with respect to some of the recent extreme weather events that affected Australia, were those events all that extreme?  How about these events in the not-too-distant past, when industrial CO2 emissions were not yet a gleam in any money-hungry politician's eye:

To ease the increasing overcrowding in British jails following the loss of the American Colonies in the American War of Independence, the British established a new penal colony, which was the first European settlement in Australia, at Sydney Cove in January 1788. Captain James Cook had charted the east coast of the Australian continent in 1770. On 13 May 1787, the ‘First Fleet’ of eleven ships commenced a historic journey from Portsmouth, England to establish the first European settlement in Australia of 1,030 people including 736 convicts, livestock, grains, seeds, young plants and two years store of supplies.
They arrived on 19 January 1788 in Botany Bay, Australia. During the eight month journey: 104, 108


&lt;blockquote&gt;* The Fleet encountered squally tropical humid weather after passing the Equator into the Southern Hemisphere, resulting in a convict woman being crushed to death and one man being thrown overboard and drowned.

* After leaving Cape Town, South Africa on 13 November, the ships were blown off course in the Roaring Forties [below 40 degrees latitude south].

* Ferocious weather of violent summer storms of very strong gales and heavy seas battered the Fleet in the Southern Ocean between November and December 1787. The winds were so strong that they lost a topsail in December.

* Chilly temperatures as cold as England in December were recorded close to Christmas 1787 [the Southern Hemisphere’s summer].

* The Fleet was forced to slow down New Year’s Day when they encountered the strongest winds of the journey losing one man overboard and injuring the cattle on board.

* In the first week of January 1788, the Fleet sails past the southeast corner of Van Diemen’s Land (Tasmania), into a violent thunderstorm and observe small patches of snow along the coastline during the height of summer.

* Sailing north up the coast of New South Wales against strong headwinds, many ships of the Fleet and its cargo of precious seedlings, were damaged by sudden squall of wind and very high seas in a severe storm on 10 January 1788. The squall was strong enough to split the mainsail on one ship and another ship lost its main yard carried away in the slings.

* Between 24 and 26 January 1788, a strong wind and huge seas buffeted ships sailing out of Botany Bay to the more suitable location of Port Jackson, where on 26 January 1788, a Union Jack flag, was planted to celebrate the beginning of European settlement in Australia.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

(Ibid. p. 298)

__________

1789 A.D. – 1791 A.D. Australia.
During 1789-91, there was a drought in New South Wales, Australia.101

No rain is said to have fallen at Sydney, Australia between June to November 1790 and all the grass was dried up.103

In January and February 1791, there were several weeks of excessive heat, hot winds, birds dropped dead from trees and everything burnt up, streams of water supplying Sydney, Australia nearly dried up.103

On 27 December 1790, the temperature in Sydney, Australia reached 102° F (38.9° C) in the shade. Then on 10 and 11 January 1791, the temperature in Sydney reached 105° F (40.6° C). Great heat was experienced. In January 1791, the settlement was visited by myriads of flying foxes and birds that dropped from the trees dead due to the extreme heat. The heat continued into February. On February 12, the country around Rose Hill and Parramatta was on fire for many miles.103

On 10 and 11 February 1791 the temperature at Sydney, Australia, stood in the shade at 105° F (40.6° C).

The heat was so excessive at Parramatta, made worse by the bush fires, that immense numbers of the large fox-bats were seen to drop from the trees into the water, and many dropped dead on the wing. At Sydney about the harbor in many places the ground was found covered with small birds, some dead, others gasping for water. At Parramatta, an officer of the relief guard left the beat to find a drink of water, he had to walk several miles in a dry watercourse before he found it, many birds dropping dead at his feet.

The wind was northwest, and burned up everything before it. Persons whose business obliged them to go out declared that it was impossible to turn the face for five minutes to the wind.103
(Ibid. p 304)

_______________

However, I will not bother to quote more of such instances of extreme weather in Australia.  Look for yourself on these pages: 309 (for the year 1792), 312 (for the year 1793), 314 (1795), 315 (1796 &#038; 1797), 316 (1798-99), 317 (1796-97) and many more pages on which Australian weather extremes are shown.

Make it easier for yourself to find such pages. Search the document for "Australia".  There is not enough space here to quote all of the extremes shown for Australia.  However, there is no doubt in my mind that ultimately none of them will prove to be as expensive and as economically devastating as will be the proposed Australian carbon tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Specifically with respect to some of the recent extreme weather events that affected Australia, were those events all that extreme?  How about these events in the not-too-distant past, when industrial CO2 emissions were not yet a gleam in any money-hungry politician&#8217;s eye:</p>
<p>To ease the increasing overcrowding in British jails following the loss of the American Colonies in the American War of Independence, the British established a new penal colony, which was the first European settlement in Australia, at Sydney Cove in January 1788. Captain James Cook had charted the east coast of the Australian continent in 1770. On 13 May 1787, the ‘First Fleet’ of eleven ships commenced a historic journey from Portsmouth, England to establish the first European settlement in Australia of 1,030 people including 736 convicts, livestock, grains, seeds, young plants and two years store of supplies.<br />
They arrived on 19 January 1788 in Botany Bay, Australia. During the eight month journey: 104, 108</p>
<blockquote><p>* The Fleet encountered squally tropical humid weather after passing the Equator into the Southern Hemisphere, resulting in a convict woman being crushed to death and one man being thrown overboard and drowned.</p>
<p>* After leaving Cape Town, South Africa on 13 November, the ships were blown off course in the Roaring Forties [below 40 degrees latitude south].</p>
<p>* Ferocious weather of violent summer storms of very strong gales and heavy seas battered the Fleet in the Southern Ocean between November and December 1787. The winds were so strong that they lost a topsail in December.</p>
<p>* Chilly temperatures as cold as England in December were recorded close to Christmas 1787 [the Southern Hemisphere’s summer].</p>
<p>* The Fleet was forced to slow down New Year’s Day when they encountered the strongest winds of the journey losing one man overboard and injuring the cattle on board.</p>
<p>* In the first week of January 1788, the Fleet sails past the southeast corner of Van Diemen’s Land (Tasmania), into a violent thunderstorm and observe small patches of snow along the coastline during the height of summer.</p>
<p>* Sailing north up the coast of New South Wales against strong headwinds, many ships of the Fleet and its cargo of precious seedlings, were damaged by sudden squall of wind and very high seas in a severe storm on 10 January 1788. The squall was strong enough to split the mainsail on one ship and another ship lost its main yard carried away in the slings.</p>
<p>* Between 24 and 26 January 1788, a strong wind and huge seas buffeted ships sailing out of Botany Bay to the more suitable location of Port Jackson, where on 26 January 1788, a Union Jack flag, was planted to celebrate the beginning of European settlement in Australia.</p></blockquote>
<p>(Ibid. p. 298)</p>
<p>__________</p>
<p>1789 A.D. – 1791 A.D. Australia.<br />
During 1789-91, there was a drought in New South Wales, Australia.101</p>
<p>No rain is said to have fallen at Sydney, Australia between June to November 1790 and all the grass was dried up.103</p>
<p>In January and February 1791, there were several weeks of excessive heat, hot winds, birds dropped dead from trees and everything burnt up, streams of water supplying Sydney, Australia nearly dried up.103</p>
<p>On 27 December 1790, the temperature in Sydney, Australia reached 102° F (38.9° C) in the shade. Then on 10 and 11 January 1791, the temperature in Sydney reached 105° F (40.6° C). Great heat was experienced. In January 1791, the settlement was visited by myriads of flying foxes and birds that dropped from the trees dead due to the extreme heat. The heat continued into February. On February 12, the country around Rose Hill and Parramatta was on fire for many miles.103</p>
<p>On 10 and 11 February 1791 the temperature at Sydney, Australia, stood in the shade at 105° F (40.6° C).</p>
<p>The heat was so excessive at Parramatta, made worse by the bush fires, that immense numbers of the large fox-bats were seen to drop from the trees into the water, and many dropped dead on the wing. At Sydney about the harbor in many places the ground was found covered with small birds, some dead, others gasping for water. At Parramatta, an officer of the relief guard left the beat to find a drink of water, he had to walk several miles in a dry watercourse before he found it, many birds dropping dead at his feet.</p>
<p>The wind was northwest, and burned up everything before it. Persons whose business obliged them to go out declared that it was impossible to turn the face for five minutes to the wind.103<br />
(Ibid. p 304)</p>
<p>_______________</p>
<p>However, I will not bother to quote more of such instances of extreme weather in Australia.  Look for yourself on these pages: 309 (for the year 1792), 312 (for the year 1793), 314 (1795), 315 (1796 &#038; 1797), 316 (1798-99), 317 (1796-97) and many more pages on which Australian weather extremes are shown.</p>
<p>Make it easier for yourself to find such pages. Search the document for &#8220;Australia&#8221;.  There is not enough space here to quote all of the extremes shown for Australia.  However, there is no doubt in my mind that ultimately none of them will prove to be as expensive and as economically devastating as will be the proposed Australian carbon tax.</p>
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		<title>Comment on You think we have weather extremes? by Walter Schneider</title>
		<link>http://lce.folc.ca/2011/07/26/you-think-we-have-weather-extremes/#comment-678</link>
		<author>Walter Schneider</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 23:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lce.folc.ca/2011/07/26/you-think-we-have-weather-extremes/#comment-678</guid>
		<description>The lead article provides the context within which our current weather "extremes" happen.  We should considers ourselves lucky not to be experiencing some of those extremes that are in the historical record.

Here is a link to a large slide show that was recently delivered in Australia to dampen the economy-breaking enthusiasm for the political but totally non-scientific craze of climate alarmisms designed to suck money out of our pockets: "&lt;a href="https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&#038;pid=explorer&#038;chrome=true&#038;srcid=0B2CFo8f0zV_bOTc1YTliZDktODNiMi00MDQzLWFiYmMtNTA4YzkyODNlYjZk&#038;hl=en_GB" rel="nofollow"&gt;A Cool Look at Global Warming&lt;/a&gt;".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lead article provides the context within which our current weather &#8220;extremes&#8221; happen.  We should considers ourselves lucky not to be experiencing some of those extremes that are in the historical record.</p>
<p>Here is a link to a large slide show that was recently delivered in Australia to dampen the economy-breaking enthusiasm for the political but totally non-scientific craze of climate alarmisms designed to suck money out of our pockets: &#8220;<a href="https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&#038;pid=explorer&#038;chrome=true&#038;srcid=0B2CFo8f0zV_bOTc1YTliZDktODNiMi00MDQzLWFiYmMtNTA4YzkyODNlYjZk&#038;hl=en_GB" rel="nofollow">A Cool Look at Global Warming</a>&#8220;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Environmentalist fraud and manslaughter by Walter Schneider</title>
		<link>http://lce.folc.ca/2011/02/21/environmentalist-fraud-and-manslaughter/#comment-586</link>
		<author>Walter Schneider</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 16:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lce.folc.ca/2011/02/21/environmentalist-fraud-and-manslaughter/#comment-586</guid>
		<description>See also: 

"The Deadly Cost of Malaria —And Not Using DDT," by Marjorie Mazel Hecht
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles_2010/Fall_2010/Books_Malaria.pdf

A review of, "Three Billion And Counting Los Angeles," Frogbite Productions, 2010, DVD, 142 min.
Check www.threebillionandcounting.com for availability</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See also: </p>
<p>&#8220;The Deadly Cost of Malaria —And Not Using DDT,&#8221; by Marjorie Mazel Hecht<br />
<a href="http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles_2010/Fall_2010/Books_Malaria.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles_2010/Fall_2010/Books_Malaria.pdf</a></p>
<p>A review of, &#8220;Three Billion And Counting Los Angeles,&#8221; Frogbite Productions, 2010, DVD, 142 min.<br />
Check <a href="http://www.threebillionandcounting.com" rel="nofollow">www.threebillionandcounting.com</a> for availability</p>
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		<title>Comment on Environmentalist fraud and manslaughter by Walter Schneider</title>
		<link>http://lce.folc.ca/2011/02/21/environmentalist-fraud-and-manslaughter/#comment-585</link>
		<author>Walter Schneider</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 16:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lce.folc.ca/2011/02/21/environmentalist-fraud-and-manslaughter/#comment-585</guid>
		<description>"A Feverish Malthusian Defends Malaria As a Non-Problem," by Donald Roberts, Ph.D., a malaria expert -- a book review of "The Fever: How Malaria Has Ruled Humankind for 500,000 Years," by Sonia Shah
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles_2011/Winter-2010/Books_The_Fever.pdf
www.21stcenturysciencetech.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A Feverish Malthusian Defends Malaria As a Non-Problem,&#8221; by Donald Roberts, Ph.D., a malaria expert &#8212; a book review of &#8220;The Fever: How Malaria Has Ruled Humankind for 500,000 Years,&#8221; by Sonia Shah<br />
<a href="http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles_2011/Winter-2010/Books_The_Fever.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles_2011/Winter-2010/Books_The_Fever.pdf</a><br />
<a href="http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com" rel="nofollow">www.21stcenturysciencetech.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Compact fluorescent lamps pose fire hazard? by Walter Schneider</title>
		<link>http://lce.folc.ca/2011/01/26/compact-fluorescent-lamps-pose-fire-hazard/#comment-578</link>
		<author>Walter Schneider</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 01:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lce.folc.ca/2011/01/26/compact-fluorescent-lamps-pose-fire-hazard/#comment-578</guid>
		<description>See also, The American Thinker, The CFL Fraud, http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/the_cfl_fraud.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See also, The American Thinker, The CFL Fraud, <a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/the_cfl_fraud.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/the_cfl_fraud.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The future of the light-bulb ban by Walter Schneider</title>
		<link>http://lce.folc.ca/2011/02/14/the-future-of-the-light-bulb-ban/#comment-577</link>
		<author>Walter Schneider</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 01:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lce.folc.ca/2011/02/14/the-future-of-the-light-bulb-ban/#comment-577</guid>
		<description>See also: The American Thinker, The CFL Fraud, http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/the_cfl_fraud.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See also: The American Thinker, The CFL Fraud, <a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/the_cfl_fraud.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/the_cfl_fraud.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Wind-power generation on a cold day in Alberta by Walter Schneider</title>
		<link>http://lce.folc.ca/2011/03/01/wind-power-generation-on-a-cold-day-in-alberta/#comment-570</link>
		<author>Walter Schneider</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 07:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lce.folc.ca/2011/03/01/wind-power-generation-on-a-cold-day-in-alberta/#comment-570</guid>
		<description>March 1, 2011 was an extremely cold day in Alberta.

On that day the total wind power generated at any time was between 0 and 2 MW for most of the day and never any larger than about 30 MW, out of an installed wind-power generating capacity of 777 MW.

Details about power generating sources for that day (actually an instant around 9 a.m.) can be seen in a screenshot (linked to source) at http://lce.folc.ca/2011/03/01/wind-power-generation-on-a-cold-day-in-alberta/ (that is the main posting shown above)

However, as you can see in the weekly report for the week of February 27 to March 5, 2011, identified farther down, wind-power generation was that low during most of that week, which is quite normal for most weeks of the year. Moreover, wind-power generation is totally erratic at almost any time — just like the wind, of course.

The Alberta Electric System Operator (AESO) shows hourly statistics for weekly intervals at their website. Looking at any of those reports, it is easy to see that when wind-power generation drops to near-zero during peak-demand hours, demand for spare generating capacity climbs to close to $1,000 per MWhr. Here is an example of that:

Wind Power Operational and Market Report
Week of Feb 27, 2011 to Mar 05, 2011
http://www.aeso.ca/downloads/Weekly_Wind_Report_Feb_27_to_05_Mar.pdf

Look for: “3.0 Wind Generation and System Load
The purpose of the graph is to illustrate how wind power varies with system load and the hourly pool price.”

If you wish to look up any of those reports for other weeks, go to the index at
http://www.aeso.ca/gridoperations/14246.html

It seems to me that it is extremely unlikely that any of those price fluctuations and steep increases during intervals of low wind-power generation are taken into account when feasibility studies for wind farms are being done. That simply means that the true costs of wind power are most likely enormously higher than even the most pessimistic cost estimates that float around lead people to believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>March 1, 2011 was an extremely cold day in Alberta.</p>
<p>On that day the total wind power generated at any time was between 0 and 2 MW for most of the day and never any larger than about 30 MW, out of an installed wind-power generating capacity of 777 MW.</p>
<p>Details about power generating sources for that day (actually an instant around 9 a.m.) can be seen in a screenshot (linked to source) at <a href="http://lce.folc.ca/2011/03/01/wind-power-generation-on-a-cold-day-in-alberta/" rel="nofollow">http://lce.folc.ca/2011/03/01/wind-power-generation-on-a-cold-day-in-alberta/</a> (that is the main posting shown above)</p>
<p>However, as you can see in the weekly report for the week of February 27 to March 5, 2011, identified farther down, wind-power generation was that low during most of that week, which is quite normal for most weeks of the year. Moreover, wind-power generation is totally erratic at almost any time — just like the wind, of course.</p>
<p>The Alberta Electric System Operator (AESO) shows hourly statistics for weekly intervals at their website. Looking at any of those reports, it is easy to see that when wind-power generation drops to near-zero during peak-demand hours, demand for spare generating capacity climbs to close to $1,000 per MWhr. Here is an example of that:</p>
<p>Wind Power Operational and Market Report<br />
Week of Feb 27, 2011 to Mar 05, 2011<br />
<a href="http://www.aeso.ca/downloads/Weekly_Wind_Report_Feb_27_to_05_Mar.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.aeso.ca/downloads/Weekly_Wind_Report_Feb_27_to_05_Mar.pdf</a></p>
<p>Look for: “3.0 Wind Generation and System Load<br />
The purpose of the graph is to illustrate how wind power varies with system load and the hourly pool price.”</p>
<p>If you wish to look up any of those reports for other weeks, go to the index at<br />
<a href="http://www.aeso.ca/gridoperations/14246.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.aeso.ca/gridoperations/14246.html</a></p>
<p>It seems to me that it is extremely unlikely that any of those price fluctuations and steep increases during intervals of low wind-power generation are taken into account when feasibility studies for wind farms are being done. That simply means that the true costs of wind power are most likely enormously higher than even the most pessimistic cost estimates that float around lead people to believe.</p>
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